No.73 Tamashii to Kokoro

The contemplation that the heart changes while the soul remains an immutable existence.

The pair defines the "Kokoro" as something that constantly changes through feelings and worries, while the "Tamashii" is the essence of the person itself—an immutable entity that remains even after the body perishes. The analogy they draw is particularly striking: if we compare it to the ocean, the soul is the ocean itself, while the heart is like the waves crashing on the surface.

Is there such a thing as a lingering "presence" that remains for some reason?

Even after a person passes away and their physical body is gone, their catchphrases, the atmosphere they projected, and their unique "personhood" continue to reside within those around them. By framing these invisible "presences" through the concept of the soul, the hosts take a fresh look at the existence of things we cannot see.

Perhaps there is not just one single soul.

The conversation evolves further into the speculation of whether we are beings branched off from one great soul, or if we are divided into even smaller fragments. They also offer a heartwarming perspective: perhaps at the moment the soul transcends, individual memories continue to dwell around the surviving family. The discussion ranges from casual everyday questions to deep perspectives on life and death. Please listen to the full episode to hear the rest.